The HAVOC-plan of the NASA

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Kimmo Huosionmaa


When we are thinking about the floating city in the atmosphere of some planets, we might think that this structure would need very much fuel or nuclear propulsion for floating above the clouds. That would not be necessarily true, even this city or giant spacecraft would stay in the atmosphere of some hostile planet.


Of course, the nuclear power and the turbines would keep the heavier than air-structure above the planet Venus, and the "heavier than air"-solution makes those systems very weird, but this kind of structure is safer than airships, but there is one problem. Staying in the atmosphere that system needs machine power and this kind of structures is no experiences before this program. The HAVOC (High Altitude Venus Operational Concept) could be heavier than air because this structure is not so sensitive for the winds, and that could make the thing safer, but the problem is that the motors of the device must operate all the time, but the leaks are less devastating than with airships.


Of course, the airship, what uses the structure, what is like cells is safer than the nowadays airships, and in that structure, the gas tank of the aircraft is filled with the small cells, what can be closed independently. That structure helps to minimize the gas leak from the airship. And the system is made with ultra-light carbon fiber or the artificial diamond layer, what can be the only couple of micrometers thick. This material can be welded together by using melted carbon fiber, what is also very hard material.


There would be the possibility to use the long capillary stick, what would suck the gas from the atmosphere thru it, and then this air would be turned down, what causes that this giant building might get enough rising force, that this structure would be in the atmosphere of the planet. Another structure of that floating system could be the parachute-type system, and under those parachutes would be conducted with the rising gas. Those parachutes will be floated this structure over the clouds. But this capillary system needs an extremely long tube, that the rising gas can raise the tens of tons system.  The "cloud city" can fly to the target planet as the normal spacecraft, and then it can be parked in the atmosphere.


That kind of city or giant structure would be used as the investigation station for the planet Venus, but it kind if systems can be used at the bases in the atmosphere of the gas giants. In theory, it could allow making investigation layers, where the astronauts can walk like in some Sci-Fi movie, and collect the samples from the lower atmosphere. This kind of systems seems very interesting, but there will be some difficulties to make those things really working. The big structure is needed because in the Venus or other planets would be needed very much equipment, and the astronauts would also need little privacy sometimes.

https://sacd.larc.nasa.gov/smab/havoc/

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How to fly or product electricity without fuel by using the capillary turbines?

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Kimmo Huosionmaa

I have written about this same thing earlier, but read this if you want. When we are thinking about flying without fuel, we must understand that this kind of machine is possible. The way how engineers think about this thin is quite simple. The aerial vehicle must only have the generator inside it, and then it must be placed on the layer, what is above the earth. And then the small tube must be laid down, and then the capillary air would start to rotate the turbine, and when this effect would happen long enough, the generator can make enough electricity to start the electric engine. This problem was thought the man named Viktor Schauberger in 1940's.


His ideas have been forgotten after the war, but sometimes they are still modern. The capillary turbines can also use to make hydrogen by electrolysis, and if those turbines and generators are installed in offshore oil rigs, the world could get pure energy by hydrogen by using capillary power. Also, the ships can use this power system for creating the auxiliary power for turbines, by conducting the flow of the water by the turbine wheel. And small ships can also move by using the capillary system. The problem is that the needed length of this tube is very long, and the 600 meters long capillary tube can give 600 bar pressure for turbines.


This is very fascinated way to make long enduring aircraft or drones, what must operate very long time, and that equipment would not get enough sunlight for making electricity for operative systems by solar panels. This kind of thing can also fly without need any fuel or even the motors is not needed, because, in theory, the flow of capillary tube can conduct straight to the back of this vehicle.


This is of course very strange idea, and it needs the long tube, for making enough powerful thrust. If the vehicle is lighter than air, it doesn’t need so much power, and modern airships can be very fast. In this scenario, we are talking about the source shaped airship, what could be fly very long time, by using this kind of thing to make the electricity for it electric systems. Those new generation airships can be very fast, and they can use hybrid motors. In the center of this vehicle might propel, what are rotating opposite ways like in Kamov-helicopters, and in this airship can be only tubes, where the capillary air would be conducted. This flow of the air would carry this vehicle at any direction, what the controllers want.


Also, there might be the zero-point propulsion systems, what can make more speed to that vehicle. Those motors can use the electric arcs for making more pressure in those tubes, and this kind of vehicle is actually possible to make. Also, the electric arcs can be used by rising those vehicles from the ground, and the electricity can be made with windmill turbo-generators. Those machines would be used to partitioning the seawater in hydrogen and oxygen by using electrolysis. This would give the effective way to fly by using the green power. Those systems can use as the cranes in the working sites in forests, but they can also use in the rescue operations, what will be return dropped recon planes from hostile territory. They can be remote controlled, and there will be no crew inside those next-generation drones.

Sources

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyOGdjWDVM4

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The introduction of the aircraft what does not need fuel at all, if it uses the capillary engine.

The saucer shape airship
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Kimmo Huosionmaa

In 1940´s the Austrian engineer named Victor Schauberger (1885-1958) investigated the possibility to build the saucer shape airship what doesn’t need any kind of fuel if that thing uses the capillary tube and the wind generator. That requires the use of the electric motors, for flight and moving between the points. The saucers shape will be perfect for STEALTH-operations, and if the airship uses electric motors, it can be silent. Of course, those airships might have hybrid systems. The capillary tube can use for the jet motors or make the jettison, what will carry this airship forward. The idea of this airship or aircraft concept is not my own.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Schauberger

There was the man, whose name was Viktor Schauberger, and the idea of the flying machine, what does not require the flying machine, what could be fly and operate without fuel is actually from this man pen. Schauberger created many radical ways to flight, and the most interesting part of this man investigations is the helicopter, what can fly without fuel The helicopter was the saucer-shaped thing, and it was equipped with the capillary tube, what sucks the air thru it. The main rotor would be equipped with the sensitive laurels, and the air what is conducted thru it will rotate it.

BMW flügerrad
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In theory, also the normal aircraft can be equipped by this kind of systems, and that capillary engine can rotate the propellers or they can use for assistance in the turbofan to increase its capacity for long-range flight. The problem of the solar power is that this kind of power system wouldn't work in the night. And that might make the problem for polar operations. The capillary motor can use in the airships to rotate the generators, or the air can drive back when this machine will move in the air. The problem with this kind of engine is the capillary tube, what must be very long. And that´s the reason, why this system will be mounted to the high flying vehicles, and that´s why it's not taken very much attention in the avionics.

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http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/BMW%20Flugelrad.htm

But some UFO-sightings might cause by this kind of vehicle. Here I mean the UFO:s what have the small tower in the middle of the disk. In my opinion, those UFO's what have the mast might be test vehicles for this capillary powered helicopters, what are flown by the USAF or some private company, what has contracted with national security. Those vehicles might use for “pseudo-UFO”-tasks under control of the “Project Garnet” when the public eye wanted to turn away from the STEALTH-bombers or another kind of airplanes, what the government wants to keep secret. So in this case those UFO:s are the test planes, what are used to test if the people will make reports for unidentified aircraft what might be Russian recon planes, what will sneak the military targets. If people would not make reports about those incidents, that would danger the national security.

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Picture 2. https://img00.deviantart.net/f781/i/2009/282/a/7/flugelrad_2_by_shelbs2.jpg

Picture 3. http://www.ufocasebook.com/klepaczkamastsmall.jpg