Every case in the world is always two sides

Kimmo Huosionmaa

In the case of declaration of independence of the nation is always two parts, the independence movement, and another part, who doesn’t want the independence for some areas. Sometimes those people are not very often seen sight in media because their emotions are not so high than that independence movement. The problem with independence movements is that they appeal more feelings than a mind. That's why those political movements get so much room in the media. And what brings publicity brings votes. Some journalists like to make big stories about those movements because they are so colorful.


People are so sensitive and real, and they can speak spontaneously for their supporters. And what is the better picture in the media than a picture, where a supporter of independence cries when the flag of that new state rises up? The media is a very effective tool when people want to get publicity in their matter. And some journalists want to make big news for some movements, because they have no strong political opinions and antipathy against the government, that they will support everybody who is against the governments all around the world.


They want to believe, that everyone in the world hates governments and NATO. When we are talking about media's attitude about independence movements, we can see that those movements can get very much very positive publicity in the news where that movements power and popularity are very strongly highlighted. And that’s was the same style of the information what was given people in “Brexit case”. The media saw only positive things about Great Britain's separation from the EU.


And that’s why I think that kind of publicity might be supported by Russians because they might want to crash NATO. Publicity brings supporters to all parties, and when those leaders come to the front of people and sing some national hymns of some area, they might look like teddy bears. They want to stand in the front of people and show their patriotism to everybody. But they forget that in those street parliaments stands only the most eager part of the people, and that is a weakness of those politicians. Popular politics are very good to manipulate people, and they always can say right word in the right place.

And if police arrests somebody in the front of their flag, those politicians say "nobody has right to hit a people of that area", and that thing happens if those arrests are for crimes like breaking windows or something else. They always change those things to political persecution. All speeding ticket what they get is given by political reasons. And after that, they will get more people to listen to their song about the greater independent nation, what will live without evil central government.  Those street parliaments are sometimes threatened other people with violence if they will not support their idea of independence of some areas.

About independence of states and situation in Spain

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Kimmo Huosionmaa

Independence of the state is not so easy to take as a people think. When some state want's to be independent, it must make diplomatic relationships with other states. And that means that the new state must be confessed by other states. This a fact in international politics. If some state has not been confessed that state would not able to make relationships with other states, and if somebody has it passport that person can't travel with that.


That is a rule in international politics. The reason for this kind of actions is those other ways some other country might want to support financial or even giving them a military training to make some state dissipate. The last thing is very dangerous because armed independence movements will normally classifieds as a terrorist organization. But why some other states are supporting those movements?


Sometimes the reason for the support for some independence movements is not so altruistic than we might want to think. Reason for supporting that kind of movement is sometimes only attempting to take a control that areas natural resources. When we are talking about this Catalonian independence movement, we must realize that is very unrealistic objective, because normal people think that Spain is quite a democratic state.


That's why Catalonia might not able to believe to get support from the EU.  What makes that particular movement so popular, is that Catalonia has better social situation than other Spain, and that's why some Catalonians think that they should not pay so much taxes if Catalonia will become independent. Sometimes I think that behind this independence movement of Catalonia might be Putin and Kreml. Russians might think that this kind of actors like Catalonian independence movement can dissipate NATO, and that's why they might get support to that kind of groups.


But there is another aspect of independence movements if they are working openly, will their members easy to locate and track.  That's why some of those group might be honeypots for people, who want to take a violence in their life. Those movements are good places to show the will to make terror-actions against some target or offer drug money to that kind of politicians. So sometimes I think that some drug dealers might get financial support for those movements because that's the way they will want to buy diplomatic status or have mercy from their crimes.

About independence movements and why they are so popular?

Kimmo Huosionmaa

The area-parliament of Catalonia is talking about independence very seriously. And today we are making questions about those things, and the question is why those movements become so popular, that they are giving a declaration of independence. But we must realize that those movements are not a new phenomenon in the politics. There are always been movements, what are willing to cut the relationships to another country, but they did not become public until now. The internet has been given also for little groups change to get publicity.


When we are talking what might happen ten or fifteen years ago, those movements will not get their voices in the mind of the people. Those men and women who talked about independence that decade ago marked as political clowns. But when the government started to use violence against those people, they became in the front of the public eye. Violence just made people fear the police, and that drives them to give their support to those independence movements.


But what makes those movements so effective in the political field. They are led by young actors, who know how to utilize social media and the Internet. When we are talking about political violence, those parties or movement represented every action what police does, and where that movements symbols seen as a strike against their movement. It's very good symbol for them when policeman hits protesters in the front of that areas flag.


The politicians who want to give the declaration of independence for that area will say to people, "those cops are using the violence against that flag". It's same where riot started, or what was the reason for violence. The only thing that has an influence in people mind, is a picture where policeman strikes peaceful protester with a baton. It's very same to every people has that protester got a gun or knife couple of seconds before. They just see a picture where heavily equipped police stand in the front of that protester. And the only thing that has an influence is what people see.


Violence is a terrible weapon against political movements. If somebody dies in those fights between police and protesters, will those political movements get martyrs? And that might conduct the situation, where that independence movement starts to radicalize its politics. That is not the very nice road. Sometimes those movements will start to use violence against the government, and the evolution will get all-state into violence. The terror is thing what nobody wants, and violence is a strong reason to ban that movement from political field and make it membership illegal. If some movement takes fire bottles to their hands it gives the government the reason to begin massive police actions against it.